From: Chris Neale (
Date: Sat Mar 28 2020 - 23:24:24 CDT

Dear FX:

I was just trying to view a CIF (for the first time) this week (cholesterol
crystal structure) and was disappointed that VMD could not view it:

I can't help with the implementation, but I thought perhaps it was worth
commenting that I would be interested in using that feature, given that
more interest might help it to happen. I tried a conversion tool I found
with a google search ( but
that would only handle mmCIF format.

Thank you, and good luck,

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:43 PM John Stone <> wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm pressed for time, but I never said that the plugin can't
> make it into the official builds. I said that on systems that
> lack the necessary C++11 runtime, it would fail to load.
> That's a different issue altogether. I will explain all of
> this in more detail when I have the time on Monday since it seems
> there are some misunderstandings here.
> Best,
> John
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 01:35:14AM +0100, FX wrote:
> > Thanks Giacomo,
> >
> > > In summary, it's a good idea to work with John on getting the plugin
> to be a part of VMD. But in my opinion you shouldn't feel obliged to
> rewrite a big chunk of code just to work around the lack of a now
> established standard.
> >
> > I???m not gonna rewrite the code because it???s not my code, it???s the
> CIF-handling headers that I need that are C++11.
> > I still wish there was a way to get the plugin in official VMD builds,
> since most people use the official builds.
> >
> > FX
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