From: John Stone (johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu)
Date: Mon Apr 13 2015 - 16:14:14 CDT

Hi,
  I've setup machines with 5 monitors and 4 or more GPUs before, so the blanket
answer is "yes" in the general case. We have a few GeForce 980 cards driving
4K TV's (I'm using one as I type this) so I know they work fine in isolation.
Driving multiple displays with multiple GPUs should be no problem. We've
got a couple of machines that combine Quadro cards and GeForce cards driving
large 4K displays and one or more smaller displays.

The X configuration for multi-GPU hosts can get a little complex depending
on whether the 3-D mode you need is quad-buffered active stereo, as opposed
to row-interleaved or column-interleaved passive stereo.

Cheers,
  John Stone
  vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 02:36:14PM -0500, Smolin, Nikolai wrote:
> John,
>
> is it possible to use 3 monitors :
>
> one 3D 4K TV connected via GTX 980
> and two monitors via nvidia quadro 2000 D
>
> in one single linux box?
>
> Thanks
> Nikolai
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Nikolai Smolin, Ph.D.
> Research Associate
> Department of Cell and Molecular Physiology
> Loyola University Chicago
> 2160 South First Avenue
> Maywood, IL 60153
> Phone : 708 - 216 - 5158
> E-mail : [1]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> E-mail : [2]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> www : [3]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 11:26 AM, John Stone <[4]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> The specs on this TV look fairly similar to the LG, so I would
> expect that the row/column interleaved stereo modes supported by VMD
> will work with the Sony TV like they do with the LG, but I have not
> tested the Sony model personally. We have been using the LG TVs and
> they seem to work very well. The LG models cost substantially less
> than the particular Sony model you listed, at least according to Google.
> One thing to consider with all of these TVs is what viewing distance
> and angles you will use. Since they are TVs they perform best with
> at least a one meter viewing distance when using the 3-D passive stereo,
> which is logical since they are meant to be used as TVs. They work
> great
> when viewed at larger distances. If you want to use them as desktop
> monitors
> they work well for that too, but the 3-D stereo will drop off if you get
> too close to the display due to the increasingly sharp angle that the
> light
> from the display passes through as it goes through the polarizers on
> the display and on the glasses. If you want to use a TV as a desktop
> monitor,
> my suggestion is to make sure you can sit at least two to three feet
> away
> (0.6 to 1.0 meters) from the display when viewing in 3-D stereo.
>
> Cheers,
> John Stone
> [5]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 04:22:01PM -0600, Smolin, Nikolai wrote:
> > John,
> >
> > I am wondering if you have any thoughts about using VMD with 3D
> 4k Sony
> > FWD-49X850B TV and with the GTX 980.
> >
> > I know you tested LG model 49UB8500-UA. Do you think Sony will
> perform
> > same as LG?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nikolai
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Nikolai Smolin, Ph.D.
> > Research Associate
> > Department of Cell and Molecular Physiology
> > Loyola University Chicago
> > 2160 South First Avenue
> > Maywood, IL 60153
> > Phone : 708 - 216 - 5158
> > E-mail : [1][6]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > E-mail : [2][7]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > www : [3][8]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:38 PM, John Stone
> <[4][9]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Nikolai,
> > * I would expect all of the high-end versions of the Kepler
> and Maxwell
> > NVIDIA GPUs would likely be workable, and I would similarly
> expect that
> > recent high-end AMD/ATI cards would work, although I haven't
> actually
> > tested
> > any yet.* I don't know what the maximum display resolutions
> are for
> > Intel's
> > integrated graphics, but I expect that integrated GPUs would
> not have
> > sufficient graphics performance to be usable on high
> resolution displays
> > like
> > these even if they could theoretically support the display
> resolution
> > for
> > easier things like playing movies.* I would say that in
> order to drive
> > a
> > 4K display well, one would want to obtain one of the latest
> GPUs in the
> > ~$250 to $500 price range, with the GTX 980 being one such
> example.*
> > You
> > can go for higher-end cards like Quadro cards to get much more
> GPU
> > memory,
> > but that would be for reasons other than just due to the 4K
> display
> > resolution, e.g. for rendering large/complex VMD scenes using
> the
> > interactive GPU ray tracing engine, etc.* If you've got the
> budget for
> > a 4K TV, it would not make much sense to skimp on the GPU to
> drive it
> > so I wouldn't go for a low-end GPU in any case.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > * John Stone
> > * [5][10]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 03:13:43PM -0600, Smolin, Nikolai
> wrote:
> > >* * Hi,
> > >
> > >* * which other graphic cards besides GeForce 980 you
> recommend for
> > this type
> > >* * of TVs (3D 4k)?
> > >
> > >* * Thanks,
> > >
> > >* * Nikolai
> > >* *
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >* * Nikolai Smolin, Ph.D.
> > >* * Research Associate
> > >* * Department of Cell and Molecular Physiology
> > >* * Loyola University Chicago
> > >* * 2160 South First Avenue
> > >* * Maywood, IL 60153
> > >* * Phone : [11]708 - 216 - 5158
> > >* * E-mail : [1][6][12]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > >* * E-mail : [2][7][13]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > >* * www :
> [3][8][14]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > >* * On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 2:31 PM, John Stone
> > <[4][9][15]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >* * * Hi,
> > >* * * A* I wanted to send a quick update.A*
> After updating video
> > drivers and
> > >* * * disabling the "deep color" display mode and
> upgrading the TV
> > firmware
> > >* * * on the LG 4K TV I've been testing, I was able
> to get
> > row-interleaved
> > >* * * stereo working with VMD on a GeForce 980, at
> full 4K
> > resolution and
> > >* * * without
> > >* * * any color bleeding from chrominance
> downsampling.A* I've been
> > testing
> > >* * * the
> > >* * * LG model 49UB8500-UA, but I believe that the
> same results
> > would likely
> > >* * * apply to their larger 55", 60", etc models.
> > >
> > >* * * Here are my observations about getting the TV
> working with
> > VMD:
> > >* * * A - If you drive the TV at native 4K
> resolution (3840x2160),
> > and you
> > >* * * have
> > >* * * A* A an up-to-date video driver and a GPU
> that can handle the
> > full
> > >* * * resolution
> > >* * * A* A without chrominance downsampling, you
> can simply enable
> > >* * * "row-interleaved"
> > >* * * A* A stereo mode in VMD (nothing has to be
> done with the TV
> > itself) and
> > >* * * you'll
> > >* * * A* A get 3-D (you may have to enable VMD
> 3-D eye swap,
> > particularly if
> > >* * * the VMD
> > >* * * A* A OpenGL window gets moved around).
> > >
> > >* * * A - If you drive the TV at any resolution
> _below_ the native
> > 4K hardware
> > >* * * A* A resolution (e.g. 1080p or less), the
> TV's built-in 3-D
> > stereo
> > >* * * decoder
> > >* * * A* A mode MUST be activated, and then you
> should set VMD's
> > stereo mode
> > >* * * to
> > >* * * A* A match whatever the TV's built-in
> stereo 3-D decoder is
> > set to.
> > >
> > >* * * So far, we have driven the TV at full 4K
> resolution and stereo
> > on Linux,
> > >* * * but we have not (yet) found a Mac laptop that
> is able to drive
> > the TV
> > >* * * over HDMI at full 4K resolution.A* All of
> the Macs we have
> > tried have
> > >* * * all maxed out at 1080p thus far.A* We
> haven't yet tried
> > Windows laptops
> > >* * * yet.
> > >* * * The various stereo modes worked fine with the
> Mac laptops,
> > albeit at
> > >* * * only 1080p resolution.
> > >
> > >* * * One remaining issue I have observed when using
> stereo 3-D with
> > the TV
> > >* * * is some apparent flicker during
> constantly-updating VMD
> > rotation draws,
> > >* * * and an apparent lack of vertical retrace
> synchronization with
> > the GPU.
> > >* * * So far this effect is relatively minor, but it
> is worth
> > noting.
> > >* * * I'm looking into whether this is some video
> driver bug or
> > something
> > >* * * else.A* I'll send further updates when I
> get it sorted out.
> > >
> > >* * * Cheers,
> > >* * * A* John Stone
> > >* * * A* [5][10][16]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * * On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:45:24AM -0600, John
> Stone wrote:
> > >* * * > Hi,
> > >* * * >A* A I think you missed my point --
> row-interleaved hasn't
> > worked for
> > >* * * me
> > >* * * > when running at 4K resolution, only
> side-by-side and
> > over-under have
> > >* * * worked
> > >* * * > so far when running at the full display
> resolution.A* Row
> > interleaved
> > >* * * is one
> > >* * * > of the modes that could have issues if
> you've got
> > downsampled
> > >* * * > chrominance (in my case the LG TV just
> disables these modes
> > entirely).
> > >* * * >
> > >* * * > For the LG TVs I'm testing currently, the
> display panel
> > appears to be
> > >* * * > row-interleaved at the hardware level, so
> running
> > row-interleaved is
> > >* * * the
> > >* * * > best choice for VMD, but I have to find a
> way to get the
> > display to
> > >* * * run
> > >* * * > at full 4K resolution with full resolution
> chrominance
> > data.A* I'm
> > >* * * going to
> > >* * * > try updating to a newer driver version and
> newer TV firmware
> > and see
> > >* * * if
> > >* * * > either of those has any impact.A* Another
> potential gotcha
> > I'm working
> > >* * * > around is that some TVs support 30-bit color
> (10-bit per
> > color
> > >* * * channel)
> > >* * * > and that eats some of the available HDMI
> bandwidth.A* It is
> > possible
> > >* * * that
> > >* * * > row, column, and checkerboard stereo modes
> might be workable
> > on the
> > >* * * > shallow color depth modes but not in 30-bit
> color.A* I'm
> > working on
> > >* * * testing
> > >* * * > that next...
> > >* * * >
> > >* * * > Cheers,
> > >* * * >A* A John
> > >* * * >
> > >* * * > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 05:34:14PM +0100,
> Norman Geist
> > wrote:
> > >* * * > > But isn't more comfortable using the row
> interleaved
> > stereo mode
> > >* * * anyway,
> > >* * * > > where one hasn't to deal with all of that
> possible issues?
> > It will
> > >* * * have full
> > >* * * > > screen stereo, windowed stereo, and the TV
> doesn't even
> > know that 3D
> > >* * * content
> > >* * * > > is present. The only disturbing thing is
> the eye switch
> > which comes
> > >* * * by
> > >* * * > > moving and placing the windows.
> > >* * * > >
> > >* * * > > Or do I miss something?
> > >* * * > >
> > >* * * > > Norman Geist.
> > >* * * > >
> > >* * * > >
> > >* * * > > > -----UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht-----
> > >* * * > > > Von: John Stone
> [mailto:[6][11][17]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu]
> > >* * * > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Dezember 2014
> 17:12
> > >* * * > > > An: Norman Geist
> > >* * * > > > Cc: 'Smolin, Nikolai'; VMD Mailing List
> > >* * * > > > Betreff: Re: vmd-l: VMD with 3D TV
> > >* * * > > >
> > >* * * > > > Hi,
> > >* * * > > >A* A One interesting observation I had
> in testing VMD
> > with some of
> > >* * * the new
> > >* * * > > > LG TVs is that although the LG 4K TV
> supports 6
> > different stereo
> > >* * * modes,
> > >* * * > > > only some of them are usable when the
> video driver is
> > set for the
> > >* * * > > > native
> > >* * * > > > 4K display resolution of the TV, at
> least in my testing
> > with a GTX
> > >* * * 980
> > >* * * > > > and driver version 343.22.A* One
> potential catch with
> > this is that
> > >* * * video
> > >* * * > > > cards using HDMI 1.x outputs may
> downsample the color
> > information
> > >* * * by 2x
> > >* * * > > > or more, converting to so-called 4:2:2
> or 4:2:0 color
> > formats.
> > >* * * > > >
> > >* * * > > > I think that the downsampled color
> formats are
> > inherently
> > >* * * unworkable
> > >* * * > > > with
> > >* * * > > > row-interleaved, column-interleaved, and
> checkerboard
> > stereo
> > >* * * formats,
> > >* * * > > > which in the case of the LG TVs I've
> been testing leaves
> > only the
> > >* * * > > > side-by-side and over-under video
> format.A* The
> > drawback of the
> > >* * * > > > side-by-side and over-under formats is
> that they only
> > work
> > >* * * correctly
> > >* * * > > > with a full-screen window, and clearly
> that is somewhat
> > limiting.
> > >* * * > > >
> > >* * * > > > I'm currently trying to sort out a video
> driver version
> > that can
> > >* * * run
> > >* * * > > > the TV without any downsampling of
> chrominance
> > information, and
> > >* * * I'm
> > >* * * > > > hoping
> > >* * * > > > that might allow the LG TVs I'm testing
> to run at full
> > 4K
> > >* * * resolution
> > >* * * > > > while also supporting windowed
> stereo.A* If you drive
> > the LG TVs
> > >* * * at
> > >* * * > > > 1080p,
> > >* * * > > > they do support all of the stereo modes,
> which is one
> > reason I
> > >* * * suspect
> > >* * * > > > that
> > >* * * > > > downsampled chrominance might causing
> the limitation in
> > 4K modes.
> > >* * * > > >
> > >* * * > > > Cheers,
> > >* * * > > >A* A John Stone
> > >* * * > > >A* A [7][12][18]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * * > > >
> > >* * * > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 08:43:12AM
> +0100, Norman Geist
> > wrote:
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* VMD also offers the stereo
> mode row
> > Interleaved, so you can
> > >* * * use
> > >* * * > > > any
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* passive 3D Display. The
> graphics card or
> > machine doesn't
> > >* * * really
> > >* * * > > > matter
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* than, except of supporting
> the 4k resolution.
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Norman Geist.
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Von:
> [8][13][19]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * * [mailto:[9][14][20]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu] Im
> > >* * * > > > Auftrag
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* von Smolin, Nikolai
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Gesendet: Freitag, 12.
> Dezember 2014 17:10
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* An:
> [10][15][21]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Betreff: vmd-l: VMD with 3D
> TV
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Dear All,
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* I am thinking to use VMD
> with 4k 3D TV.
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* What is the best way to do
> it.
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Linux or Windows? which
> graphic card? Which TV
> > is best for
> > >* * * this?
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Now I have a Suse 13.1 with
> QuadroA* 2000D
> > Workstation
> > >* * * Graphics
> > >* * * > > > Card -
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* 1024MB, GDDR5, PCI Express
> 2.0 x16, Dual DVI,
> > DirectX 11,
> > >* * * Single-
> > >* * * > > > Slot.
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Can I use this workstation
> with 4k 3D TV.
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Thanks,
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Nikolai
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A
> > >* * *
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >* * * > > > ---------------------------------------
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Nikolai Smolin, Ph.D.
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Research Associate
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Department of Cell and
> Molecular Physiology
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Loyola University Chicago
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* 2160 South First Avenue
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Maywood, IL 60153
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Phone : [16]708 - 216 -
> 5158
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* E-mail :
> [1][11][17][22]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* E-mail :
> [2][12][18][23]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* www :
> > [3][13][19][24]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > > References
> > >* * * > > > >
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* Visible links
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* 1.
> mailto:[14][20][25]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* 2.
> mailto:[15][21][26]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > >* * * > > > >A* A* 3.
> > [16][22][27]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > >* * * > > >
> > >* * * > > > --
> > >* * * > > > NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling
> and
> > Bioinformatics
> > >* * * > > > Beckman Institute for Advanced Science
> and Technology
> > >* * * > > > University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews
> Ave, Urbana, IL
> > 61801
> > >* * * > > >
> [17][23][28]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A* A* A* A*
> > A* A Phone:
> > >* * * [18]217-244-3349
> > >* * * > > >
> [19][24][29]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > >* * * > >
> > >* * * >
> > >* * * > --
> > >* * * > NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and
> Bioinformatics
> > >* * * > Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and
> Technology
> > >* * * > University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave,
> Urbana, IL 61801
> > >* * * >
> [20][25][30]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A* A* A* A* A*
> A
> > Phone:
> > >* * * [21]217-244-3349
> > >* * * >
> [22][26][31]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > >
> > >* * * --
> > >* * * NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and
> Bioinformatics
> > >* * * Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and
> Technology
> > >* * * University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave,
> Urbana, IL 61801
> > >* * *
> [23][27][32]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A* A* A* A* A*
> A
> > Phone:
> > >* * * [24]217-244-3349
> > >* * *
> [25][28][33]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > >
> > > References
> > >
> > >* * Visible links
> > >* * 1. mailto:[29][34]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > >* * 2. mailto:[30][35]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > >* * 3.
> [31][36]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > >* * 4. mailto:[32][37]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * 5. mailto:[33][38]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * 6. mailto:[34][39]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * 7. mailto:[35][40]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * 8. mailto:[36][41]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * 9. mailto:[37][42]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * 10. mailto:[38][43]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > >* * 11. mailto:[39][44]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > >* * 12. mailto:[40][45]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > >* * 13.
> [41][46]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > >* * 14. mailto:[42][47]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > >* * 15. mailto:[43][48]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > >* * 16.
> [44][49]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > >* * 17. [45][50]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> > >* * 18. tel:[46]217-244-3349
> > >* * 19. [47][51]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > >* * 20. [48][52]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> > >* * 21. tel:[49]217-244-3349
> > >* * 22. [50][53]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > >* * 23. [51][54]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> > >* * 24. tel:[52]217-244-3349
> > >* * 25. [53][55]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > --
> > NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
> > Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
> > University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
> > [54][56]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/* * * * *
> * Phone:
> > [55]217-244-3349
> > [56][57]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >
> > References
> >
> > Visible links
> > 1. mailto:[58]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > 2. mailto:[59]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > 3. [60]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > 4. mailto:[61]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 5. mailto:[62]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 6. mailto:[63]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > 7. mailto:[64]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > 8. [65]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > 9. mailto:[66]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 10. mailto:[67]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 11. mailto:[68]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 12. mailto:[69]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 13. mailto:[70]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 14. mailto:[71]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 15. mailto:[72]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 16. file:///tmp/tel:708%20-%20216%20-%205158
> > 17. mailto:[73]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > 18. mailto:[74]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > 19. [75]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > 20. mailto:[76]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > 21. mailto:[77]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > 22. [78]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > 23. [79]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> > 24. [80]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > 25. [81]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> > 26. [82]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > 27. [83]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> > 28. [84]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > 29. mailto:[85]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > 30. mailto:[86]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > 31. [87]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > 32. mailto:[88]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 33. mailto:[89]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 34. mailto:[90]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 35. mailto:[91]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 36. mailto:[92]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 37. mailto:[93]owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 38. mailto:[94]vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> > 39. mailto:[95]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > 40. mailto:[96]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > 41. [97]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > 42. mailto:[98]nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> > 43. mailto:[99]nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> > 44. [100]https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> > 45. [101]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> > 46. file:///tmp/tel:[102]217-244-3349
> > 47. [103]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > 48. [104]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> > 49. file:///tmp/tel:[105]217-244-3349
> > 50. [106]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > 51. [107]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> > 52. file:///tmp/tel:[108]217-244-3349
> > 53. [109]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> > 54. [110]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> > 55. file:///tmp/tel:[111]217-244-3349
> > 56. [112]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> --
> NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
> Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
> University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
> [113]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/ Phone:
> [114]217-244-3349
> [115]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 2. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 3. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 4. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 5. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 6. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 7. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 8. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 9. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 10. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 11. file:///tmp/tel:708%20-%20216%20-%205158
> 12. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 13. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 14. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 15. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 16. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 17. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 18. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 19. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 20. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 21. mailto:vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 22. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 23. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 24. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 25. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 26. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 27. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 28. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A%C3%82
> 29. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 30. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A%C3%82
> 31. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 32. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A%C3%82
> 33. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 34. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 35. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 36. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 37. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 38. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 39. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 40. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 41. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 42. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 43. mailto:vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 44. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 45. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 46. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 47. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 48. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 49. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 50. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 51. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 52. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 53. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 54. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 55. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 56. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/%C3%82
> 57. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 58. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 59. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 60. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 61. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 62. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 63. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 64. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 65. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 66. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 67. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 68. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 69. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 70. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 71. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 72. mailto:vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 73. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 74. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 75. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 76. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 77. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 78. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 79. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> 80. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 81. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> 82. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 83. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/A
> 84. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 85. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 86. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 87. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 88. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 89. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 90. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 91. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 92. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 93. mailto:owner-vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 94. mailto:vmd-l_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 95. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 96. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 97. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 98. mailto:nikolai.smolin_at_gmail.com
> 99. mailto:nsmolin_at_luc.edu
> 100. https://sites.google.com/site/nikolaismolin/
> 101. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 102. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 103. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 104. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 105. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 106. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 107. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 108. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 109. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 110. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 111. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 112. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 113. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 114. file:///tmp/tel:217-244-3349
> 115. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/

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NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/           Phone: 217-244-3349
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/