Re: Electrostatic interaction of 2 ions

From: Fateme Ghadirian (
Date: Fri Apr 12 2019 - 12:39:54 CDT

HiBrian, thanks for your reply;

1.Yes, switching is set to on, I want to have truncation in electrostatic energybeyond a certain distance and the discontinuity be smooth for energyconservation.

2.I will study it, don’t know what it does.

3.Yes, you are right. In the previous email I meant that kq1q2= -332.063 kcal.A/mol  (q1q1=-e^2)

4. Yes, that was just for simplicity anddealing with one kind of interaction.

Butdo you have any idea about my questions?


    On Friday, April 12, 2019, 7:39:41 PM GMT+4:30, Brian Radak <> wrote:
 1) do you have switching on? I'm not entirely sure what that does for electrostatics with the settings you describe.2) you might also try "fullDirect on"3) the NAMD value for the Coulombic constant is 332.0636 kcal-A/mol-e^2
4) you don't really need to zero out VDW interactions, since each interaction type is segregated (see ELECT rather than POTENTIAL)

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:35 AM Fateme Ghadirian <> wrote:

Dear NAMDuser’s

I’mtrying to solve a basic and also simple problem with NAMD. It’s about justcoulombic interaction of sodium and chloride ions and also have a comparisonbetween NAMD results and my analytical code with mathematica.

So atfirst I changed the epsilon parameter of their lennard jones interactions tozero, in nbfix part of the parameter file, to switch off the lennard joneseffect, so as a result, VDW energy would be zero through time and that is what I’veexpected.

But Ihave 3 questions in this problem:

1. As youcan see in my .conf file, I’ve defined a cutoff distance of 12 A and pairlistdist14 A and set PME to on, so if I choose the first distance of the ions like 30 A,this is not right to expect that electrical energy should be zero, because ofsetting PME to on, which calculates full electrostatic interaction and therewill be no truncation in electrostatic energy. But if in the same condition Iset PME to off, it is true to get zero for electrical interaction, which I’vegot.

Butsetting PME to off causes some problems in the values of elect energycalculations; as an example, in the following condition

cutoffdistance 12 A

pairlistdist14 A

PME off

Firstdistance of ions: 8Ang (in pdb file)

At firsttime step, with the elect energy formula; kq1q1/r   (k=332.063711 kcal/mol); elect energy mustbe -41.5079 kcal/mol, but in the log file I have -12.8111 kcal/mol!!!!! When Iset PME to on, the right answer shows up!

Thequestion is, what should I do, not to have full electrostatic calculations (Iwant to have truncation in elect energy upper a certain distance between ions),but also have the right value of elect energy?

2. I knowthat in a real problem in NAMD, lennerad jones potential does not allow theseions to approach together under a certain distance, and also minimization partof the configuration file does not allow atoms to take the same places, but asa test, I put the ions at the same position, so elect energy must be infinite,and there should be a crash in running the program, but I have -1992.3816kcal/mol elec energy in the log file, why is that so?!

3. Whysometimes there is a slight difference between log file elect energy andanalytical calculations kq1q1/r (I’ve checked just first time steps)?


TimeStep0;  r0= 7A  : Electrical energy in log file= -47.4445kcal/mol

                          Electrical energy with analytical formula(kq1q1/r) = -47.4376 kcal/mol


 Some files are attached to the email.

Is there anyonewho knows the answers of these questions? Would help me a lot.








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